# June Workgroup Meeting Discourse Channel

**URL:** <https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100>\
**Category:** 06-22-2023 Meeting\
**Created:** [June 14, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100 "2023-06-14T20:37:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![emilyesteban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@emilyesteban](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/emilyesteban)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/1 "2023-06-14T20:37:20Z")

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1. Welcome and Previous Session Recap

- Welcome and Agenda Review
- Reflect on Workgroup progress to date
- Public Comment

1. UPK Mixed Delivery Quality and Access Identifying Barriers: What are the  
barriers programs face in implementing Quality and increasing Access through  
Mixed Delivery?

- The Workgroup will explore the following overarching questions through a  
combination of presentations, facilitated discussions, and public comment.  
_a. What barriers prevent programs within California’s mixed delivery system_  
_from implementing high-quality universal preschool programs (pursuant to Education Code Section 8203)? How can these barriers be addressed?_  
_b. What elements of current preschool program standards contribute to the_  
_barriers?_

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**Author:** ![emilyesteban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@emilyesteban](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/emilyesteban)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/2 "2023-06-14T20:38:22Z")

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**Author:** ![emilyesteban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@emilyesteban](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/emilyesteban)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/3 "2023-06-22T19:30:19Z")

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**Author:** ![christinanicosia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@christinanicosia](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/christinanicosia)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/4 "2023-06-22T19:35:21Z")

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The June meeting of CA’s Universal PreKindergarten Mixed Delivery Quality & Access Workgroup has started. Workgroup members can use this Discourse channel to capture their thoughts and ideas, ask questions, and discuss agenda items.

Written public comment on agenda item 1 is now open. Members of the public can make comments on the first agenda item [here](https://forms.gle/b8Fn9siKvu6ukAJu7), and all responses can be viewed [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zqVbaX-tbSUK0goAVhzMO9nNgoxdjOa7TQckyEWxGLI/edit?usp=sharing).

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**Author:** ![radhabalas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ebca7d/32.png) [@radhabalas](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/radhabalas)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/5 "2023-06-22T19:46:48Z")

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The discussion board is now open? Thanks

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**Author:** ![Maggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@Maggie](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/Maggie)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/6 "2023-06-22T19:48:25Z")

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Yes- Discourse is open for workgroup member comments and questions

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**Author:** ![christinanicosia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@christinanicosia](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/christinanicosia)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/7 "2023-06-22T19:56:27Z")

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We are now reviewing last month’s (May) Meeting. Workgroup members can make written comments on this topic here.

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**Author:** ![krosenberger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f05b48/32.png) [@krosenberger](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/krosenberger)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/8 "2023-06-22T20:00:01Z")

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I was out last meeting but I do want to flag that less than 10% of are family childcare providers are members of FCCHNs.

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**Author:** ![christinanicosia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@christinanicosia](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/christinanicosia)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/9 "2023-06-22T20:00:27Z")

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We will now review the report and recommendation development process and timeline.

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**Author:** ![LaWanda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6de8d8/32.png) [@LaWanda](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/LaWanda)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/11 "2023-06-22T20:21:09Z")

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Thank you.

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**Author:** ![ajordan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@ajordan](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/ajordan)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/12 "2023-06-22T20:23:12Z")

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As we move forward we need to figure out how to best market UPK MDS and all available parent choice options available to families while ensuring that not one model is made to appear as higher quality than another. Hence why we should build off of the great work and foundation that QCC offers.

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**Author:** ![SamanthaThompsonMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@SamanthaThompsonMBA](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/SamanthaThompsonMBA)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/13 "2023-06-22T20:23:39Z")

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Maggie made reference to the link on the bottom of the timeline and I thought she said the framework for the report was there; but, I must be overlooking the information - will you please provide an explanation for that link again - thank you.

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**Author:** ![hmelnick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8dc957/32.png) [@hmelnick](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/hmelnick)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/14 "2023-06-22T20:24:40Z")

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Thanks to all of the workgroup members who asked good questions about the recommendation process and for the transparency around the process. My one comment is that I think we should avoid a false dichotomy between the expert presentations and practitioner voices. We had several great expert presentations, including those from Catalyst and Every Child, who brought forward research on family and practitioner experiences. Research can be a tool to elevate and represent the voices of California’s diverse perspectives, including those individuals who aren’t able to attend these meetings.

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**Author:** ![Maggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@Maggie](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/Maggie)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/15 "2023-06-22T20:25:44Z")

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All links needed for the meeting can be accessed at: [UPK Mixed Delivery Quality and Access Workgroup Links](https://www.glenpricegroup.com/upkmdqa/)

The bottom link is to CET, which hosts links to the report development process and outlines

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**Author:** ![SamanthaThompsonMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@SamanthaThompsonMBA](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/SamanthaThompsonMBA)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/16 "2023-06-22T20:25:53Z")

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I agree and I think it would be beneficial to have a presentation on QCC and participation levels across counties and demographics of providers and children in the programs - I worry that given some of the differences in implementation there may not be a fair foundation for consideration

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**Author:** ![christinanicosia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@christinanicosia](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/christinanicosia)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/17 "2023-06-22T20:26:15Z")

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We are now on the presentation on **Program Monitoring (Program Quality Improvement)**.

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**Author:** ![Maggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@Maggie](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/Maggie)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/18 "2023-06-22T20:27:08Z")

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We will have a presentation on QCC and Child Outcomes next month - we can ask for some of that participation level setting as part of that presentation

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**Author:** ![radhabalas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ebca7d/32.png) [@radhabalas](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/radhabalas)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/19 "2023-06-22T20:28:06Z")

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What is the difference between ratio:

Adult- Child 1-8

Teacher- child 24-1

I am not sure what the difference is between the terms Adult and Teacher?

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**Author:** ![ddavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8e7dd6/32.png) [@ddavis](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/ddavis)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/20 "2023-06-22T20:30:05Z")

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CDE wants to clarify that what Hanna said is correct. We are thinking of the experts as not just research and academic but also all the parents and providers we have had as presenters on our previous and upcoming panels.

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**Author:** ![ajordan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@ajordan](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/u/ajordan)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://upkmdqawg.discourse.group/t/june-workgroup-meeting-discourse-channel/100/21 "2023-06-22T20:30:12Z")

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Context and Charge:

> **[UPK Quality and Access Workgroup Context and Charge \[CET\].pdf](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_PC1Ap7D55TEHF36kAmVG_ToUi13ssvt/view)**
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> Google Drive file.

Report Framework/Outline:

> **[UPK MD Quality and Access Report Outline \[CET\] Posted 5.23.23.pdf](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aRJmreTeR5CITsiRkz79SMLtdtnyj7ad/view)**
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> Google Drive file.

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